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Episode 064: “Living Centered and Learning To Be A Beginner”

Featuring Shauna Niequist

Today our friend, New York Times Best-selling Author Shauna Niequist, returns! She sat down with Lindsey and Mickenzie to talk all about starting over, being a beginner, and the journey she has been on for the last few years to create a quieter, deeper life. Shauna documents this journey in her beautiful new book: I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet: Discovering New Ways of Living When the Old Ways Stop Working. If you are in a season of transition (spoiler alert, we almost always are!), we hope this episode will inspire you to approach life through the lens of a learner! If you want to hear more from Shauna, check out Episode 20 – “Living Centered in Authentic Community.”

Meet this episode’s expert

Shauna Niequist is the New York Times bestselling author of Present Over Perfect and I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet. She is married to Aaron, and they live in New York City with their sons, Henry and Mac. Shauna is a bookworm, a storyteller, and a passionate gatherer of people, especially around the table.

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When everything we’ve been clinging to falls apart, how do we know what to keep and what to let go of? I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet is a clear-eyed look at where we go from here–and how we can transform our lives along the way.



Life has a way of getting the best of us. We spend our days chasing activity, achievements, and accolades, yet somewhere along the way, we forget why we started chasing them in the first place. We begin to function as human doings instead of remembering that we are human beings.

The Living Centered Program, our most popular workshop, is a world-renowned group experience designed to help you bring your life back to center by connecting your current and past circumstances with how they affect you today. 

During this six-day program, our expert therapists guide you in rewriting your narratives and resolving areas of your life that keep you stuck, leading you to take back agency and access the life you actually want to live. 

Relationships, trauma, depression, anxiety, codependency—or just the stresses of daily living—often keep you from the peace and balance you desire. But they don’t have to. 

By removing you from the fast pace and distractions of your day to day, the Living Centered Program will help you re-establish congruence between your feelings, values, and actions. This program is an invitation to explore and ensure the person you want to be is the person you actually are 

The Living Centered Program is now offered at both our Tennessee and California campuses. 


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