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Episode 109: “Living Centered and Pursuing Soulbriety”

Featuring Dr. Elisa Hallerman, PhD, JD

Join Mickenzie and Hannah for a conversation with Dr. Elisa Hallerman, Depth Psychologist and author of the new book SOULBRIETY: Heal Your Trauma, Overcome Addiction, and Reconnect with Your Soul. In this powerful interview, Dr. Elisa shares her own journey toward sobriety and how after five years in recovery, she realized she was free from drugs and alcohol but felt disconnected from herself, her soul, and the wellness she really wanted. She shares how we can all benefit from the journey toward soulbriety.

Meet this episode’s expert

Dr. Elisa Hallerman, PhD, JD, has had a diverse career over the past 25 years. Without her unique journey, the Recovery Management Agency would not exist. Dr. Hallerman is an attorney and member of the New York State Bar Association. She holds a master’s and doctorate from Pacifica Graduate Institute in Depth Psychology and Somatic Studies, focusing on neuroscience and trauma. Dr. Hallerman is also a drug and alcohol counselor, and certified in yogic science for addictive behavior. In addition, she is a member of the Institute for Functional Medicine. Finally, Dr. Hallerman serves as a visiting professor for film and media arts at Chapman University, where she melds the art of agenting in Hollywood with balance, passion, meaning, and purpose. 

In 1990, Dr. Hallerman graduated from the University of Michigan, where she majored in political science and sociology. She attended New York Law School and practiced law in Manhattan until 1996. After her parents’ divorce, she and her sister moved to Los Angeles. Dr. Hallerman quickly found a job working at ICM Partners as an assistant to a talent agent. After losing a close friend to suicide, she moved to United Talent Agency in Beverly Hills, where her career as an agent was built. She was a partner and head of the talent department until her departure in 2008. 

As Dr. Hallerman began to realize that agenting might no longer be for her, she wondered if another agency would fulfill her calling-so she joined Endeavor Agency down the street, which later merged with William Morris in 2009 to become William Morris Endeavor (WME). Working at WME quelled Dr. Hallerman’s calling to leave the talent business at first. But the urge gradually became louder and louder. Knowing she had to leave was no longer the issue-what she would do next was the big question. 

Curious about what else was out there, Dr. Hallerman dove into classes at UCLA and focused on drug and alcohol counseling. She had been in recovery since 2002 and had watched multiple family members and previous clients suffer from addiction and alcoholism. While taking classes at night and working for WME during the day, she began to realize the field of addiction might even be more of the “Wild West” than Hollywood. 

Dr. Hallerman knew that her passion as an agent had helped her guide her clients to achieve their dreams. She recognized this strength and channeled it into a new way of helping people: toward optimal wellness through their best path to healing.

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Milestones is a one-of-a-kind holistic and specialized residential trauma treatment experience. Serving individuals adversely affected by symptoms of unaddressed trauma, including anxiety, depression, codependency, and PTSD, this innovative and integrative program offers a variable-length of stay from 30 to 90 days specific to individual needs.  

Milestones offers multiple progressive clinical modalities based on specific needs—as well as warm hospitality and excellent customer service. Programming is structured yet flexible in order to accommodate the unique strengths, abilities, needs, and goals of each client. 


SOULBRIETY: Heal Your Trauma, Overcome Addiction, and Reconnect with Your Soul.

Soulbriety is not just about getting sober; it’s about true, soul-centered wellness. It starts when you slow down and grow down, in a way you’ve been yearning for—but probably didn’t quite know how to before. To explore your unconscious root system, plumb the depths of your soul, travel your own individual hero’s journey. Hallerman shows us exactly how to get there with step-by-step solutions and incredibly affecting storytelling. And Hallerman is not alone in this endeavor; she has affected thousands of lives, healed many wounds, and inspired countless others to take charge of their life by taking charge of their soul.


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