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Episode 042: “Living Centered and Avoiding the Pitfalls of Our Success”

Featuring Steve Carter

In a world where many of us are chasing power, money, and influence that can ultimately harm us, this week’s guest is passionate about doing the personal work he believes is necessary not to just avoid pitfalls, but live an authentic, fulfilled life.   Join us for an honest and impactful conversation with Steve Carter, pastor, speaker, podcast host, author of the new book: The Thing Beneath The Thing. In this interview, Steve gets vulnerable about his own journey chasing accolades and the importance of doing our own work, naming and examining our trauma, and leading with character when it means the most.

Meet this episode’s expert

Steve Carter is a pastor, speaker, author, podcast host, and the former lead teaching pastor of Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago. He hosts the Craft & Character podcast where he helps people get better at the art of communication while ensuring their character always leads the way. His desire is to bring Jesus into every conversation and space he occupies. 

Steve also co-hosts one of the top sports podcasts, The Home Team Podcast, with NFL players Trey Burton and Sam Acho, which unpacks the intersection between faith, culture, sports, and family. His latest book, The Thing Beneath The Thing, is now available wherever books are sold.

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The Thing Beneath The Thing by Steve Carter